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catback, and believe me I was saving for a long time, but honestly they are worth it. Yes you could get the ebay ones and get almost the same dyno results, but ask yourself how long those products will last, especially if you live in the northern states. I use to have those cheap ass pipes and within 1 year and a couple of months they were half rusted, and I would clean them once every three weeks. The products that specialty z offers are in no way comparable to anything else on the market period!
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